Thursday, March 25, 2010

Andhra Pradesh: Why a state division?

Is there a state in this country that is stitched together like Andhra Pradesh? Can two siblings be permanently attached to each other on the basis of similarity in DNA? Can such attachment be called legitimate? Back in 1956, two separate entities, Hyderabad and Andhra states, have been stitched together with an expectation that they would develop into a singularity over a period of time. The only common reason of this attachment being the language - Telugu. But it resulted into an awkward ‘Siamese twin’ situation with both entities struggling to maintain it’s own identity.
 
Is there any other region in India that enjoys special constitutional provisions as Telangana? Why employment opportunities are categorized into zones only in Andhra Pradesh? Aren’t there any backward areas anywhere in any of the other states? Why constitution is not providing similar zonal employment rights in other states also? Why should the constitution provide special rights to Telangana people and how long will they continue to enjoy these rights? Fifty three years after a state merger, why are Telangana people still crying to implement those special rights? Can we ever see un-discriminated and equally treated regions (by the constitution) across AP? Will the Indian government ever dare to initiate such steps? If not, why not separate these two regions? - lift all the applicable special constitutional provisions across these two re-born states to bring them on par with all other states?
 
What is a state? After all, it is just an administrative unit! Self rule is what was conceived by Gandhiji and also by the Indian constitution. Unfortunately this is not being practiced nor implemented across the Nation (Centre consumes the states revenues, States consuming the district revenues, and districts consuming the panchayat revenues). When local bodies aren’t allowed to spend their own revenues, dominant power centers use the major revenue share according to their own advantage. That's what is happening across. One possible solution to slowly move towards 'sampoorna grama swarajyam' is to break down large administrative units (states) into smaller ones. A question then arises, “on what grounds should we divide a state?” It can be answered by looking at how states are formed\organized in our republic. It’s either on the grounds of logical administrative unitization (hindi speaking states) or based on ‘people sentiments’ (formation of linguistic states based on language sentiment). Formation of linguistic states that looked to be a great idea is slowly turning out to be a strategic national disaster on a longer term. Slowly linguistic fanaticism is growing – Few say, “None other than Marathas in Mumbai”, “no Hindi in Tamil land” etc. Instead of preaching nationalistic feelings, linguistic feelings are being provoked. May be it’s time to break these bigger linguistic states into smaller manageable units at the best interest of the National integrity.
 
Again, to divide these bigger states, the same old principle can be applied. 1. Identify the backward areas within a state to separate them and form a new state or, 2. Respond to the sentimental demands of the sub-region of a state to separate them and form a new state.
 
In the case of Telangana, both the above reasons look valid (with the later one being a stronger reason). Moreover the demand of separate Telangana is a byproduct of the union of Andhra and Hyderabad states. Time and again it has been ignited by the dejected Telangana politicians in the hands of their counterpart Andhra leaders. The issue has become a politicized handball for the opposition and ruling governments of AP with each one throwing it into others’ court whenever they wish to score a point each. With the advent of a dedicated third team i.e TRS, into this crooked political game, it turned out into an arena of sledging and mudslinging at each other. The atmosphere in AP is completely spoiled and there has to be a permanent closure to this political game. A virtual wall has been already raised across the regions. Hyderabad’s image as a ‘global IT and Pharma hub’ is being tarnished in the continuous ruptures between Andhra and Telangana people. Common man is now prepared to separate – only the nitty-gritty’s of separation needs to be worked out, disputed issues need to be addressed. The Indian government should not resort to the age old delay tactics. Unless majority of the people within a state identify themselves as a singular unit, it’s extremely difficult to contain them. Continuously ignoring the demand of Telangana people may lead to a much bigger and dangerous ‘separatist’ attitude.
 
The situation in Andhra Pradesh demands a permanent solution to all the mess created by juxtaposing Andhra and Hyderabad states! It’s better to resolve this now at the best National interests!! 


21 comments:

  1. Are you crazy.How do you think Maharasthra was formed or how Karnataka formed.Weren't Hyderabad-Karnataka and Marathawada not part of Hyderabad .They are different regions but living in harmony not like selfish Telangana leaders today.

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  2. " Continuously ignoring the demand of Telangana people may lead to a much bigger and dangerous ‘separatist’ attitude."
    Hey don't worry such a demand will be dealt with by my government and people.Not a snow's flake chance in Hell....

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  3. @Anonymous,
    First go back to your school to learn the basics of 'speaking etiquette' !!
    However, ignoring your ill manners...
    Have you visited Aurangabad region that is separated from Hyd state and merged with Marathwada now? There is a huge industrial corridor that's being promoted there unlike Telangana region. MNCs like Skoda, Audi, Hindalco, Parly, Siemens, Videocon etc have their manufacturing units setup in the same Marathwada region. Naturally, people there don't see any necessity to seek a separate state. Why do you think Vidarbha is demanding a separate state? Moreover, people of Aurangabad region were glad to be merged with Mahartashtra and there were no secondary opinions of being a separate entity at the time of merger. Do you know that even the same Aurangabad region agitated for a separate identity from Hyderabad state during the tenure of Boorugula Rama Krishna Rao's rule? Reason: They felt they are discriminated in the Hyderabad state rule!
    Finally, every one will have their own reasons to seek for separate identity. Tamilians thought the same as you are thinking now about Seema-Andhra leaders when they demanded for a separate state! Don't forget that you too were a 'statue' once, as you are enjoying your current position of being a 'pigeon'!

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  4. @Raj,
    Glad to know that you have internet connectivity in Hell also and are able to read thruogh my Blog. I thank God for keeping people like you safely in Hell!
    PS: If you spit BS, you will be replied with BS !!

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  5. "First go back to your school to learn the basics of 'speaking etiquette' !!
    However, ignoring your ill manners..."
    "Are you crazy?" is not transgressing any etiquette borders compared to what you wrote "Is there a state in this country that is stitched together like Andhra Pradesh?" .Is there any state that was not formed after stitching and sewing? Marathwada was and is still the most underdeveloped region in Maharasthra.Child labour and Child marriages rates in Marathwada are highest in entire India.If they had Videocon,Audi etc ,Telangana has lot better than that.They have ECIL,NFC,CCMB,HiTec City,Ramagundam Super power plant,BDL thousands of industries that a lot productive.The development in Aurangabad is very recent.
    "They felt they are discriminated in the Hyderabad state rule!"
    It is the other way my dear friend,Telugus felt that they were discriminated upon in Hyderabad state and Marathas didnt want anything to do with Hyderabad State.The "Andhra Movement" in Hyderabad state was formed not against Nizam but against the derision and discrimination of Telugus by Marathas in Nizam State Social Conference held in Hyderabad in November 1921.
    A.V. Rama Rao, a lawyer, rose to speak in Telugu on a resolution, and the audience, mainly composed of Marathis unwilling to hear Telugu, shouted him down. That such an event could happen in Telangana upset the Telugu people in the audience. On the night of November 12, 1921, an Andhra Jana Sangham was formed with 11 members, and on April 4, 1922.That was the triggering point in Hyderabad State Freedom Movement.
    Regarding Marathwada and its backwardness it is know to everybody what the state of affairs there is.Even Ambedkar advocated formation of erstwhile Bombay state and Eastern Maharasthra state of Marathwada into two equal states.
    The Andhra State was formed on the language basis so were Maharastra and Karnataka.The very basis of Telangana is language after Mahathas and Kannadas had enough with Hyderabad State.
    Hey Statue becoming a pigeon is lot better than becoming a cat among pigeons.Telangana was a symbol of exploitation and discrimination in 50s.Nizam plundered and looted Hyderabad city and made it a rubble but still lived his royal life with guaranteed money from the Union.The literacy was 4%,Vetti and bonded labor was still in vogue. There was unrest and insecurity .Do you've these conditions now?
    Regional disparities and peculiarity are common everywhere.In USA California you've most fertile places and at the same time barren deserts.If you are from desert you can't rail against the Nation and its people saying you are not able to raise oranges there and that 'the retirees and settlers' are responsible for their plight..

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  6. "Glad to know that you have internet connectivity in Hell also and are able to read thruogh my Blog. I thank God for keeping people like you safely in Hell!
    PS: If you spit BS, you will be replied with BS !!"
    First understand what the expression means. You run a blog and don't understand the figure of speeches.I earnestly advise you to google the phrase 'Not a snow flakes chance in Hell" and then talk.
    IF that is BS I can understand your predicament.
    If you write BS like "demand of Telangana people may lead to a much bigger and dangerous ‘separatist’ attitude." without rational,what are you inferring? Is my nation or our people so dumb to be afraid of secessionist demands stemming from a hypothetical 'discrimination' ?
    It is ok if you spit BS on blogs but don't BS innocent Telangana people and spew venom on them...

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  7. Open Terrace,
    Nice post. I am from Telangana region and I agree with your articles on Telangana.

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  8. Dear Raj,
    hahaha... I know what that expression means :). It's your arrogant words 'my government' instigated me to throw that sircastic remark at you. Now that you hv come to proper sensible talking terms seeking the rationality behind that statement "demand of Telangana people may lead to a much bigger and dangerous ‘separatist’ attitude", let me explain it...

    If we look at some separatists’ demands like Khalistan demand, Bodoland demand or even the Tamilian's separatist demand in Sri Lanka, there is something common in them. Usually all such separatist demands start with a 'feeling of discrimination' and with demands of few special constitutional provisions. Politicians usually exploit such situations and ignite them further. If the State fails to respond with appropriate measures, the whole case turns into people's agitation. Agitations lead to stern police action and severe human rights violation. Thus whole issue gets extrapolated and the affected sect starts feeling further discriminated and slowly separatist demands starts raising.

    Yeah, it's true that my Nation has effectively resolved the Khalistan demand; my Nation is putting up stern efforts to resolve the Bodoland demand. Even Sri Lanka seems to have curtailed the LTTE demands. But, at what bargain? My Nation lost two big time leaders, innumerous lives, the economic loss, riots, uncertainty, international reputation loss and what not?

    You might be feeling like ridiculing me of "how a demand of separate T state be compared with those examples, you mentioned". I don't know whether you too watched it on TV or not, during the days of T-agitation, One of the ex-TRS leader and a so said 'Telangana Medhavi', Mr. Prakash Rao clearly said (not exactly in his words, but a gist of it in my words), "If the centre yields to the pressure of Samaikhandhra udyamam and goes back from it's 9th declaration stance made on behalf of the Indian Government, we might not continue to show faith in this Government nor on the constitution. We might rather consider reviving the petition pending at the UN, on behalf of Telangana people, by the dethroned last Nizam seeking UN's intervention against Indian Government’s police action on Nizam territory". Even if such an argument doesn't withstand at UN, it puts my Nation into one more embarrassment situation if the neighboring Nation tries to project it relating it with an existing issue that it's fighting in proxy (I am deliberately not mentioning few names at the best interests of my Nation). I am rather concerned about those situations. I intentionally didn't explain all these sensitive details. I thought esteemed SKC would understand it. Your failure to understand what I was trying to convey to SKC forced me to open it up.

    Raj, as it is obvious that you are standing on the other side of this argument, you may find whole of the above explanation as a baseless hypothetical extrapolation. You have a right to feel so. I shall not deny that!

    BTW, why don't you read through the rest of my blog following this link: http://theopenterrace.blogspot.com/p/telangana.html
    If you read through it, you will realize to whom I am addressing entire contents on Telangana issue.

    Thanks for stopping by...!

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  9. Thanks for enlightening me about Prakash,now I understand the context.If what he has said is true.That is wrong.I do believe that majority of Telanganites don't nuture those thoughts.But I do believe if they raise a movement on separatist lines then govt reserves its right to snub the agitation down.
    The security council has taken up the resolution on pressure of the British govt.Mountbatten and Churchhill were dead against integrating Hyderabad with India.India was supported by China of all countries.Azad too had his reservations.The Nizam flew special flights to PAkistan taking loads of Govt of India securities and money.That was wrong.
    I don't have anything against Telangana as I'm a Telanganite myself but I feel that instead of doing constructive things one should not waste time and thought with secessionist mindset.
    After living in West I toned down myself in believing that 'settling' down in a different region is not a bane to local population.
    If the people in the US or UK thought the same about thousands of Indians going there to work,how would we feel.After all Andhras are our people though we differ in attitudes against each other...

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  10. Anonymous,
    >>"Are you crazy?" is not transgressing any etiquette borders compared to what you wrote "Is there a state in this country that is stitched together like Andhra Pradesh?"
    Yes! It does transgress the etiquette borders! While debating a point, one should not target the other debator, rather it should be the point of discussion that has to be targetted. Hope you will understand this point.

    Is there any state that was not formed after stitching and sewing?
    Yes! almost every state is formed only after stiching and sewing. But were they done so on conditional terms? Were there gentleman agreements? Were there special constitutional provisons? The regions that were stiched had faith at each other unlike Telangana and Andhra Regions. Gentleman's agreement is a standing proof as how much disbelief Telanganites had towards Andhraites. 1969 agitation is the second proof that the disbelief was not rooted out from the hearts of Telanganites. 1973 Andhra agitation is yet another proof that both regions continued to nurture their mis-trust towards each other. 2004 congress's political pact with TRS is yet another proof that there continued to be a sizeable population in T region that goes gaga hearing the very word 'separate T state'. 50+ years of state formation, people from both regions are never united. They are just forced to compromise with each other only on the basis of language. Read the second paragraph of my post above and relook at my question again: "Is there a state in this country that is stitched together like Andhra Pradesh?"

    Marathwada or any other part of any state that is under developed, seeking a separate state or not is their own issue. Telangana demand wasn't born nor completely dead at at some other state's inspiration. Backwardness is not the complete and one and only reason of T demand. It is the lack of faith or trust on it's counterpart that's playing major role in T demand. This is an unspoken fact.

    Anonymous, what you said about 1921 is true. But I was referring to a some other time frame, that of post independance, Boorgula's time. Please read my answer again.

    >>Nizam plundered and looted Hyderabad city and made it a rubble
    That is wrong. While it is true that Nizam was rich and royal, Nizam didn't loot Hydearabad. It's the other way. He converged the revenues from other parts of his kingdom to construct Hyderabad. Read through the first paragraph under "State merger - A 'One shot – Two birds’ solution of the central government" in this post of mine: http://theopenterrace.blogspot.com/p/brief-insight-into-andhra-pradesh.html

    >>Regional disparities and peculiarity are common everywhere.In USA California you've most fertile places and at the same time barren deserts.If you are from desert you can't rail against the Nation and its people saying you are not able to raise oranges there and that 'the retirees and settlers' are responsible for their plight..
    Did I advocate backwardness as a reason for suggesting a state division anywhere in my post above? Please give it a read once again. I suggest you to read through all my other posts over this issue by clicking on the "Telangana" link at the Top.

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  11. these days,its become a hobby to open a blog on telangana and talk nonsense and say that its pure support for telangana.
    But has anyone of these bloggers,done anything for telangana.
    U people talk about flourosis,if the government is not actign,it doesnt mean discrimination,its either recklessness or lack of proper monetary resources.
    Further I think you dont have a reason to fight because govt started implementing 610 GO and as all telangana people wished,krishna and east and west godavari are going dry.
    WISH YOU ALL THE BEST IN FACING FAMINE BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO EXPERIENCE IN THE FUTURE.
    COASTAL DISTRICTS ARE NOW NOT IN A POSITION TO CULTIVATE ANY CROPS,THEIR LAND IS BECOMING SALT FROM OCEAN WATER AND THERE IS NO DRINKING WATER.

    INDIA IS ON THE VERGE OF FACING A GREAT FAMINE.

    ALL THE BEST FELLOWS.THINK THIS IS ONE WAY OF CONTROLLING POPULATION.

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  12. You can write whatever you want about Nizam .Nizam plundered the money from Hyderabad after the govt offered him his guaranteed money.
    The problem with Telanganites like you is that they have selective amnesia with regard to atrocities committed by Nizam and hail him as if he descended from the heavens.
    Read the book by P. Sundarayya, Telengana People's Struggle and Its Lessons, December 1972

    and read about your hero here about how he sold his properties in gold stationed in wagons.Is it not the hard earned money ?
    http://tinyurl.com/yknmy9r

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  13. Read about Marathwada and how the situation is here.Do you think Telangana is much better than Marathwada?
    http://www.rediff.com/election/2004/oct/06maha1.ht"Did I advocate backwardness as a reason for suggesting a state division anywhere in my post above? Please give it a read once again. I suggest you to read through all my other posts over this issue by clicking on the "Telangana" link at the Top"
    If backwardness is not a criteria why the dickens you need Telangana? Is it a child's play?

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  14. >>If backwardness is not a criteria why the dickens you need Telangana?
    It shows how myopic you are at generalising everyone's reason on T-State demand only as a point of backwardness without even giving a proper reading.
    Anonymous, Are you celebrating today as your special day?
    Only fools need to be told more than once... Let me repeat what I said above...
    "Marathwada or any other part of any state that is under developed, seeking a separate state or not is their own issue. Telangana demand wasn't born nor completely dead at some other state's inspiration. Backwardness is not the complete and one and only reason of T demand. It is the lack of faith or trust on it's counterpart that's playing major role in T demand. This is an unspoken fact."

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  15. >>The problem with Telanganites like you is that they have selective amnesia with regard to atrocities committed by Nizam and hail him as if he descended from the heavens.
    That's true! We Telanganites consider Nizam as our own fellow and whatever attrocities he comitted on us is our internal issue. We won't accept the sympathic crocodile tears of outsiders (especially Andhraites) on our internal issues. If we have to talk to outsiders about Nizam, we would rather speak whatever little good he did to the state rather than his attrocities. Accepted!! Happy now ?

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  16. //hat's true! We Telanganites consider Nizam as our own fellow and whatever attrocities he comitted on us is our internal issue. We won't accept the sympathic crocodile tears of outsiders (especially Andhraites) on our internal issues. If we have to talk to outsiders about Nizam, we would rather speak whatever little good he did to the state rather than his attrocities. Accepted!! Happy now ?//
    Its not an internal issue.It is an issue involving every Indian.You are grossly mistaken my friend.It is due efforts of Andhraites that Sundarayya that Telanganites fought against Nizam and is the reason behind Peasant uprising.
    Nizam-ul-Mulk and his descendants were from Samarkhand,he is not from Telangana...

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  17. >>Nizam-ul-Mulk and his descendants were from Samarkhand,he is not from Telangana...
    Yes! First Nizam can be termed as external entity. But his dissendants who are born and brought up here naturally becomes the Sons of the soil - The Telanganites. This is applicable universally. Whether they were good or bad rulers is a different issue. Akbar did few good things, we are proud of him. Aurangazeb was cruel. We recent him. Similarly, few of the Nizams were good, few bad - especially the last one. But that doesn't mean he didn't do any single good thing. Even Akbar was cruel, so was Sri Krishna Devaraya. We might measure the rulers on the entirity. That doesn't mean that we should ignore a prticular good or bad deed of his. Would you call it as selective amnesia if I say Krishna Devaraya is a good ruler for ignoring the fact that he plucked his Minister's eyes? It all depends on the context of the subject.

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  18. "Only fools need to be told more than once... Let me repeat what I said above..."
    Yes only fools bring about hypothetical things like lack of faith and self-respect.Who is stopping Telangana leaders from not becoming Chief Ministers.If what you say is true then Telangana people wold form a party and elect all 119 MLAs and who is to stop them from becoming Chief Minister.There is a procedure for every aspect,just railing against so-called 'settlers' would not get anything in this democratic set-up.Telangana cannot be achieved over crying and railing.Stop the jealousy at others.Try to improve the quality of life.Write to educate but not to bring out some manufactured inconsistencies.I thought you were sensible since u were the member of Tracking Telangana group.But u proved a damp squib.Just like any other Telanganite blog airing illogical and half-baked premises.....
    PS If you like Nizam so much make him the icon of Telangana and see how many people will support Telangana.

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  19. Anonymous, Anonymous, Anonymous....
    If you have read through all my posts on T, you would hv found soemwhere in it an explanation with a sub-heading, "Why there are less CM's in AP from Telangana?".
    Now I shall not even ask you anymore to first read through all my posts before coming to conclusions about me. I am tired of your pointless, aimless and illogical stupid arguements. I now realise the greatness of somebody's quote, "Never argue with idiots! They will first pull you down to their levels and beat you with experience !!"
    Don't bother to waste your time posting anymore comments here. They shall be rejected unless you raise a point that I hasn't explained or failed to elaborate properly.

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  20. Most andhra guys posting on the web or speaking on the TV are ignoring a fundamental point i.e. the democratic premise. They want to preserve the united state claiming their own reasons (language, culture, kalasi unte kaladu sukham, KCR is bad, andhras developed Hyderabad, blah blah) ignoring the wishes of the Telangana people.

    The seperatists of 1952 turned intergrationists of 2009 should remember Gurajada's words: "deshamante matti kodoy, deshamante manushuloy". You can not demand to stay united because you want or because of the land some kings in the past (Satavahana, Kakatiya etc.) ruled. Convince the people of Telangana to stay with you if you can or let them seperate if they want. Forced cohabitation ain't going to work, got it?

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  21. Unprecedented growth of Hyderabad in the past 20 years or so that resulted into heavy revenue income yield has resulted, propelling the demand of separate statehood for telangana.....
    Had If Hyderabad is not part of telangana, please think would this movement has ever evolved...?
    If such is the situation, can any body answer what if Muslim community demand separation of Hyderabad from Telangana?
    Even northern telangana is still backward comparing to other parts of telengana.....

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